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Title: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: kingyiff on October 24, 2005, 08:00:21 PM How to setup Surreal 64 With ROMs.
This has been asked many times, so I decided to write a how to tutorial for setting up your Surreal 64 to show your N64 ROMs correctly. Things needed 1. A connection to your xbox from your PC 2. Surreal 64 (can be obtained from our Files section) 3. A N64 *ROM (which too can be obtained from the usual places) For this case I will use Zelda: Ocarina of Time 4. And a brain would help! ;) A VERY thorough step by step guide Step 1: Hook your xbox up to your PC Step 2: Make sure that your xbox has an IP address. Step 3: Use some sort of FTP application such as FlashFXP, CuteFTP, SmartFTP, or even Internet Explorer will do the trick to connect to your xbox. Step 4: Once you are connected to your xbox transfer over the downloaded surreal folder that you got from our Files section (Make sure you unzipped it) to where your Apps are stored, or if you are obsessive like me you could just make a new folder called E:\Emulators\ and then edit your Dashboards to look there for Emulators. Go to you directory where Surreal 64 and make a folder called roms. Then in the Surreal 64 directory (not the roms folder) you should see a file called surreal.ini , you need to copy this to the desktop. Step 5: Open the surreal.ini on your desktop and make sure yours says this: [Settings] Rom Path=D:\Roms Step 6: Download some n64 ROMs from either www.emuparadise.org or www.romhustler.net Step 7: Extract the ROMs you just downloaded from one of those sites to a new folder on your desktop, and then FTP them from your desktop to your Xbox in the folder you made earlier called Roms.Reboot your xbox and then load Surreal 64 that should show up in your Apps. Step 8: Click the Refresh button at the bottom right of the Surreal 64 main menu and your game should show up. NOTES: Make sure that your ROM has the extension of .z64 or .v64 NOT .rom !!! If you followed this tutorial to a science and your ROMs still aren't showing up find E:\TDATA\a64fea57\ and delete the folder. Then reboot and launch Surreal64. Hope that helps. Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 to display your ROMs correctly Post by: SMD on November 04, 2005, 08:18:53 AM Excellent Tutorial. Very well put together.. not to mention color coded? Awesome.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 to display your ROMs correctly Post by: jebus989 on February 04, 2006, 06:06:00 PM Help, I followed this exactly and my roms don't show up...
Find E:\TDATA\a64fea57\ You see three files, one of them being surreal.ini (the one that matters). You can edit this, or more simply, just delete this folder a64fea57. When you reboot your xbox it will be auto created by surreal based loosley on surreals surreal.ini. This is a kinda final solution if youve tried a few simple things. This is usually the only problem, it just depends on whether surreal created this file before or after you opened it. My surreal.ini is pointed to d:\roms\ and media to d:\media\ even though my roms arent on a disk. This doesnt matter atall. Also dont worry about renaming to match the compatiblity list, you could call one WORSTGAMEEVER.z64 and it will work fine. Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 to display your ROMs correctly Post by: hateshapedman on September 17, 2006, 12:13:11 AM this is my first time ever asking a question here, i have followed the directions ecactly and anytime i try to open a rom all i get is 3/4 a square and a question mark,they do not have the cover art or anything and never show the correct name. i have tried opening the roms with 1964 proj64 and ultra64 or what ever it is that is in surreal64. i have pretty much every n64 rom and cannot get a single one to work. i tried both surreal64 and surreal64xxx and neither one work. i tried burning the roms as an iso and that did not work, ive checked all around on the web and in the forums here and cannot get this to work. is there any way to create an iso with the emu and roms and what not all on one disc like the baed series? are there specific roms that i have to use with the xbox or will any work, because i know the roms i have work on my pc. i have been messing with this for like 4 or 5 hours now and cannot figure it out, i hate to be the noob that asks the stupid question but i for the life of me cannot figure this one out. i would realy apreciate any help or links or advice that would opint me in the direction to get this to work. thanks guys.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 to display your ROMs correctly Post by: nxwhitney on October 24, 2006, 07:10:12 PM OKay here goes....
I have tried just about everything suggested to no avail. My surreal.ini files displays as follows: [Settings] Rom Path=F:\Roms\N64\ Media Path=F:\Media\ Both of the directories are there and match case-sensitivly. I checked "E:\TDATA\a64fea57\" and there was no *.ini there. Most of the forum topics allude that users are running Surreal64, when I am running SurrealXXX. Is there something different that I should as I "believe" that I am running a different emu? I got these to run on an xbox that nrother had, but I am positive that the roms were in the E:\ drive and not on the extra as is mine. Thoughts? Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 to display your ROMs correctly Post by: drfweega on October 26, 2006, 01:31:57 PM Maybe try changing the Rom and Media Path to D:\ instead of F:\ and hit the Refresh button in your Emulator. Just a guess.
If that doesn't work I would try a different emulator. Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 to display your ROMs correctly Post by: nxwhitney on October 26, 2006, 09:16:17 PM Didn't work... :(
However, I decided to back step a little and I loaded up the ol' Slayer's Disk and started over (nothing like a fresh install to clear the senses). I modified the Surreal.ini file before I ftp'ed it over and ran it and all went fine. I was also running into a problem into a problem with MAMEoX. I had acquired some roms that did not have the CHD'd included and the emulator required them to be present. Even after I acquired the CHD, it still wouldn't run them (said they were missing from the *.zip file). But they work now. Obviously, some of these emu's are caching settings "somewhere" in the directories, but I was never able to find them. At least it works though! Not to sound like an ass-kisser, but I have found 99% of my answers here. Thanks to all for being patient with the newbies! Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 to display your ROMs correctly Post by: skip2mylou on October 29, 2006, 10:35:52 AM if the extension is *.v64 is there any way to change it to *.z64?
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: drfweega on December 24, 2006, 12:01:05 PM I doubt it. There might be a converter out there though.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: skip2mylou on December 24, 2006, 01:45:22 PM no matter, i was able to find most of the v64's as z64's so in the end its all good. thanks.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: pfat on January 06, 2007, 10:38:10 AM Is there a way I can put the emu and roms on a disk? (my sis is running out of room on her box)
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: drfweega on January 06, 2007, 01:08:04 PM Yeah, all you have to do is use Craxtion.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: pfat on January 06, 2007, 05:10:14 PM ok im doing somthing wrong, I have a .iso with the sureal emu and roms, so i think im doing something wrong in the burning process. I open up nero and burn the .iso. when I put the disk in, my box recognizes sureal64 inside the tray but, when I press launch dvd it goes to the loading screen and stays there. I tried reburning it at a slower speed, same thing happend. Is there a tut somwhere i missed? or help me out plz...
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: drfweega on January 06, 2007, 05:36:35 PM Hmm, this is the first time I've ever been stumped... give me a little while to think about it.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: pfat on January 09, 2007, 01:07:32 AM ok. maybe it has something to do with how i formatted the stuff on the disk b4 i made it an iso? idk, just guessing..... its probly a lil thing a 4got to do, like always!
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: thrash on February 09, 2007, 05:06:24 PM Hey everybody, do you know why I cant upload some of my N64 roms with SmartFTP? One out of four of my Legend of Zelda roms are able to upload, the others just wont upload. Using IE it gives this error:
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1903/transferfaileddv5.th.png) (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=transferfaileddv5.png) The log for my SmartFTP is as follows: Code: [13:03:24] Remote file exist check: "Legend of Zelda, The - Majora's Mask.z64". Its really wierd, some roms transfer, some dont. The same goes for my NES roms. Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: drfweega on February 09, 2007, 06:04:12 PM Remove the comma, and shorten the name to less then 42 characters including the extension. Then re-transfer it.
EDIT: Here (http://dwl.xbox-scene.com/~xbox/xbox-scene/tools/harddrive/fatx-renamer_v1.0.0.zip) is a good application to do all of your ROMs at once. Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: thrash on February 09, 2007, 06:11:33 PM Thanks soo much! It's working now.
Are there any other characters or such that are dissallowed? Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: drfweega on February 09, 2007, 06:14:59 PM No, but I would download that application and tell it the location of your roms and then rename them all. It would take a lot less time then doing it all by yourself. Especially if you have a lot :)
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: thrash on February 09, 2007, 06:17:31 PM Thanks a bunch, I have a huge supply of roms, so this would be very helpful.
Also, do you know where I can get the surreal64 emulator aside from Xbins (doesnt seem to be working) because the one I ripped from your auto-installer doesnt want to load itself. -edit- Hmm, when I put that file exe into one of my ROM directorys that has each rom stored in a different folder, it gives me a runtime error when I try to run it: Runtime Error '380': Invalid property value. Going through each folder in a 913 folder directory would hurt. Is there a batch converter that would work the way this one wont? Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: drfweega on February 09, 2007, 06:25:11 PM Hmm, did you try deleting all your cache folders? E:\Cache X:\ Y:\ Z:\ E:\TDATA\a64fea57\
I'll get you a link.. give me sec. EDIT: See if this (http://rapidshare.com/files/12351608/Surreal64.rar) works. Here's a link to all those type of apps - http://xbox-scene.com/tools/tools.php?page=managers Here's a newer version of FatX Renamer (http://www.gadgetophile.com/wp-content/FatXRenamer.msi) Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: thrash on February 09, 2007, 07:00:50 PM YES! It works, the proggy launches. How long does it typically take to launch a ROM? seems all the roms freeze at loading rom.
Also: the new FatX Renamer works like a dream, thanks. Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: drfweega on February 10, 2007, 09:15:43 AM Well it will usually go through 1% 25% 50% 75% 100% depending on how big the rom is. I would suspect that you got it running okay now though. If you need any more help just ask.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: thrash on February 10, 2007, 01:36:47 PM Yeah, it works, but to launch any of my roms it takes about 4 minutes >.>
I think it might just be my EvoX dash (I prefer UX), I was reading somewhere that EvoX uses a bigger amount of memory and processing power when launching Surreal64 from the dash. I have one question though, if I make a new HDD (either 40-80gb) will I have to reinstall all my emulaters or can I just copy the directory over, and will I be able to use it again later if I format it? Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: drfweega on February 11, 2007, 08:57:56 AM Well you can keep all your Apps, Emus, and Homebrew games if you copy them to your PC via FTP, or you can copy them all and burn them to a launchable DVD for the Xbox. If you upgrade your Xbox HDD you will always have to copy over those directories which would take a long time especially if you have 4000 little files.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: thrash on February 11, 2007, 10:48:07 AM Yeah, I figured that out the hard way. Would increasing the amount of workers in smartftp increase the speed? Seems like it would.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: drfweega on February 11, 2007, 02:30:29 PM I don't know. It's worth a shot.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: chasm on April 02, 2007, 06:34:17 PM ok so i have a rom for legend of zelda ocarina of time and i cant even transfer it onto flashfxp. i got it from here
http://www.emuparadise.org/roms/n64/z/ how do i fix it? Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: Kyla666 (zzk2001) on April 04, 2007, 04:52:08 AM the Text in Any file Must Be 40 or Less to transfer to Xbox
( if the games is called this then it will Not transfer) ifagameiscalledthisthenitwillnottransfer.zip (But this Will) Butthiswill.zip See what i am saying Remeber the .zip or whatever it is, Is part Of the Name To Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: chasm on April 08, 2007, 04:21:02 PM oooohhh ok thanks a lot. i downloaded like 500000++++ different roms and none would work lol. i was about to give up. thanks
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: z4ch_d1zzl3 on April 22, 2007, 02:40:05 PM how come when i put 8 games on my n64 i cant put anymore ... i still have 3k mb left
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: Kyla666 (zzk2001) on April 22, 2007, 04:23:48 PM 3k... MB ??? lol ok
not sure what your trying to say =( Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: skip2mylou on April 22, 2007, 04:58:22 PM i think he means 3 thousand megabytes.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: z4ch_d1zzl3 on April 22, 2007, 05:42:21 PM ok like right now i have 12 n64 games on my xbox... but only 8 of them show up and it will not scroll up or down
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: drfweega on April 22, 2007, 08:51:24 PM Switch it to show a list instead of the icons.. or use the trigger buttons to scroll up and down.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: z4ch_d1zzl3 on April 23, 2007, 04:11:59 PM i did that already does not work for me lol
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: drfweega on April 24, 2007, 07:42:01 AM What version are you using? I heard that there is a new XXX version but I haven't used it at all. I would recommend using the version that came out before this newest one to see if it will display your roms correctly. With the Xbox it's all trial and error.
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: Shinigami on May 30, 2007, 08:27:13 PM What's the difference between surreal64 and surreal64 xxx?
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: Snipes101 on May 30, 2007, 10:25:17 PM Surreal64 is an old version, but it'll work better then the newer verision Surreal 64 XXX. A rom could play better one the old one then the newer one. Why i dont know, but i use both of them for all my games and some games work better on one then the other one ;) . Its some wat like a balance, but in the end the rom will work just find just got to find the right Surreal64 emulator to run it and the right settings. In my case the two work just fine when you have them both ;D
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: n00blet on March 07, 2008, 09:10:32 PM im having a problem ftping certain roms over to my xbox
like i cant transfer orciraina of time or majoras mask over to my xbox when i try and ftp it says failed transfer i used filezilla as my ftp program Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: GamezR2EZ on March 07, 2008, 10:12:29 PM how long is the file name?
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: n00blet on March 08, 2008, 11:44:11 AM it has a ... cause its so long should i just change the name?
Title: Re: How to setup Surreal 64 w/ ROMs Post by: GamezR2EZ on March 08, 2008, 03:06:37 PM yes change the name
the xbox can only support a short filename (i think 32 char or sumthin along that line) |